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Proof of vegito ~ ssj3 gogeta
Topic Started: Oct 16 2013, 10:31 AM (2,468 Views)
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I've recently seen in another topic that vegito in his base is ment to be around ssj3 gogeta for some reason, was this person just guessing? I'm pretty shore they said it is implied, when is it implied?
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SSJ 3 Gogeta is said to be able to beat Buutenks. Base Vegetto is most definitely weaker than Buuhan, since he transforned immediately. Many people just make them even to make it easier
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It's just based around Buuhan's statement that an SSJ3 Gogeta wouldn't be able to beat him and the fact that people place Base Vegito close to Buuhan. IMO, Buuhan wasn't factoring in the rival boost (which I have to be quite significant).

SSJ3 Gogeta >>>>>>>>> SSJ Gogeta >> Buuhan >= Base Vegito >> SSJ3 Gogeta (Expected)
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Um it depends on how you do fusion

Goku: 1,000,000,000
Vegeta: 1,000,000,000
Gohan: 600,000,000
Trunks: 550,000,000
Goten: 545,000,000

Gotenks is Goten x2 x3 x 10 so Gogeta is the same
Vegetto is Goku + Vegeta x 3 x 100

Vegetto: 600,000,000,000
- super saiyan: 6,000,000,000,000
- super saiyan 2: 12,000,000,000,000
- super saiyan 3: 48,000,000,000,000
Gogeta: 60,000,000,000
- super saiyan: 600,000,000,000
- super saiyan 2: 1,200,000,000,000
- super saiyan 3: 4,800,000,000,000
Ultimate Gohan: 3,000,000,000,000
Gotenks: 32,700,000,000
- super saiyan: 327,000,000,000
- super saiyan 2: 654,000,000,000
- super saiyan 3: 2,616,000,000,000
Super Buu: 2,600,000,000,000
- post gotenks: 5,200,000,000,000
- post gohan: 5,600,000,000,000

So my Vegetto is stronger than Gogeta but not Ssj3 Gogeta
Edited by FamousBueller, Oct 16 2013, 11:18 PM.
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Oct 16 2013, 03:28 PM
Um it depends on how you do fusion

Goku: 1,000,000,000
Vegeta: 1,000,000,000
Gohan: 600,000,000
Trunks: 550,000,000
Goten: 545,000,000

Gotenks is Goten x2 x3 x 10 so Gogeta is the same
Vegetto is Goku + Vegeta x 100

Vegetto: 200,000,000,000
- super saiyan: 2,000,000,000,000
- super saiyan 2: 4,000,000,000,000
- super saiyan 3: 16,000,000,000,000
Gogeta: 60,000,000,000
- super saiyan: 600,000,000,000
- super saiyan 2: 1,200,000,000,000
- super saiyan 3: 4,800,000,000,000
Gotenks: 32,700,000,000

So my Vegetto is stronger than Gogeta but not Ssj3 Gogeta
Well So gotenks ssj3 is only 10 times stronger than gotenks base?

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I have base vegito between ssj2 and ssj3 Gotenks based on ssj vegito's statment to buuhan. and ssj3 Gogeta somewhat stronger than Buff buu but weaker than Ultimate Gohan based on buutenks and Buuhan statments so ssj3 Gogeta is much stronger than Base Vegito.
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There's no reliable evidence to suggest that Gogeta's a weakling who couldn't beat Majin Boo at his strongest like some people believe. We've got Gohan-Boo insisting that Fusion wouldn't be enough to beat him, but he's not reliable. It's just typical villain arrogance/delusion; He kept saying the same thing all the while Vegetto was kicking his face in.
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^ This!

This whole Base Vegito ~ SSJ3 Gogeta thing was based off that one messly statement. Theirs nothing to suggest that Vegito has an insanely huge advantage over Gogeta.
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Oct 16 2013, 11:27 AM
It's just based around Buuhan's statement that an SSJ3 Gogeta wouldn't be able to beat him and the fact that people place Base Vegito close to Buuhan. IMO, Buuhan wasn't factoring in the rival boost (which I have to be quite significant).

SSJ3 Gogeta >>>>>>>>> SSJ Gogeta >> Buuhan >= Base Vegito >> SSJ3 Gogeta (Expected)
The rival boost really shouldn't be significant at all. It is there, yes. But it is made out to seem like it has minimal effects. The two fighters are the biggest component of fusion,
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Oct 16 2013, 06:29 PM
^ This!

This whole Base Vegito ~ SSJ3 Gogeta thing was based off that one messly statement. Theirs nothing to suggest that Vegito has an insanely huge advantage over Gogeta.
you know the original fusion works the same way as it worked with gotenks thus The gap between gogeta and gotenks is the same as the gap between goku and goten

its like

Trunks: 5
Goten 4
Gotenks (4+4)*10/hypothetical formula/=80

While

goku: 10
vegeta 10
gogeta (10+10)*10=200


you see 200/80=2.5
10/4=2.5
Edited by Pointer, Oct 16 2013, 08:19 PM.

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I have SSj3 Gogeta at Buutenks level or slightly above tagt Base Vegito is exactly on Buutenks level for me so actually the best its to put them at the same level so I don't see anything wrong with that ^_^
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Oct 16 2013, 08:17 PM
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Oct 16 2013, 06:29 PM
^ This!

This whole Base Vegito ~ SSJ3 Gogeta thing was based off that one messly statement. Theirs nothing to suggest that Vegito has an insanely huge advantage over Gogeta.
you know the original fusion works the same way as it worked with gotenks thus The gap between gogeta and gotenks is the same as the gap between goku and goten

its like

Trunks: 5
Goten 4
Gotenks (4+4)*10/hypothetical formula/=80

While

goku: 10
vegeta 10
gogeta (10+10)*10=200


you see 200/80=2.5
10/4=2.5


The gap between base vegito and base gogeta is somewhere 10*4*8=*320


Ups ..forgive me this one
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Oct 16 2013, 07:16 PM
The two fighters are the biggest component of fusion.
Exactly. The Old Kaioshin made a point to tell us that Vegetto ended up as strong as he did because of Goku and Vegeta, not just the Potara being a superior fusion method. While at least one or two sources do say that Potara is generally stronger than the Fusion Dance (in ADDITION to not having a time limit, not ONLY because of it), there's no reason to assume it's to such a degree that Gogeta would end up being some frail weakling compared to Vegetto (or Boo, for that matter). The "ingredients" are the same, so the end result should be similar.
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Well I have been reconsidering things, and even if you have Buutenks < SSJ Gogeta < Buuhan, that still would make SSJ Vegetto many times stronger than him.
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I'd see it more as Super Gogeta being far superior to Gohan-Boo, but not AS far superior as Vegetto.
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